A chat log from #suse showing a typical situation.
Please add the "Step 2" tutorial to any forums helping people with wifi on openSUSE 11.4 with KDE. This chatlog proves, that the NM-frontends have a lot to how the entire Networkmanager works, EVEN HOW IFUP IWCONFIG WORKS!!
Now see yourself what happened and make conclusions:
Who is who:
<nikola__> - troubled user. Wifi card does not work
<rhorse> (and other users) - trying to help by doing the normal things that experienced users would suggest.
<woodefec> - it's me.
<rhorse> OK, this might well work
<gandhijee> Chrysantine: still complains that it can't open /etc/samba/secrets.tdb file
<rhorse> make a directory called Removed in /etc/init.d. Move the file, network, into it. Then reboot. It should reboot without the network started. Then try the iwconfig/dhclient process.
* netsjanek__ opuścił/a czat (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
<rhorse> Then, to get it back just move network from Removed to its orig. place
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: Try #2.
<gandhijee> #2????
* netsjanek (~janek@metroeth-nat34.217.146.194.generacja.pl) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: http://susepaste.org/88412813
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: http://susepaste.org/7321610
<gandhijee> thanks
* netsjanek opuścił/a czat (Client Quit)
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: Replace the entire files.
* netsjanek_ (~janek@metroeth-nat34.217.146.194.generacja.pl) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<plane-> Chrysantine: the cable is perfect and bad wireless slow weird. thanks
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: Remember to restart apparmor with rcapparmor restart
* myo opuścił/a czat (Read error: Operation timed out)
<gandhijee> Chrysantine: that was the problem
<gandhijee> i didnt restart apparmor.
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: Derp :P
<nikola__> rhorse: how to start dolphin as root, so I can cut/move file ?
<gandhijee> yep
<cb400f> nikola__: there's super user dolphin in the menu
* bmahe (~bmahe@173-164-176-117-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<cb400f> search for 'dolphin' or go to applications -> system -> file manager
<nikola__> found it
* hsuanyeh opuścił/a czat (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
<rhorse> nikola__: just open a root terminal and I'll give you the commands
* myo (~matze@88.130.201.182) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<nikola__> ok
* tackat (~trahn@pd95c4acb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<cb400f> http://opensuse-guide.org/security.php
* morice-net opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
<gandhijee> Chrysantine: thanks for your help, fixed my problem really appreciate it.
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: Good stuff, apparmor can be a bit tricky at times :p
<gandhijee> Chrysantine: honestly i didn't think about restarting it after i made the changes, just didn't really occur to me
<tigerfoot> Chrysantine: chkconfig boot.apparmor off :-)
<gandhijee> where can i find more info about apparmor and what it does?
<Chrysantine> tigerfoot: That's not really a good idea :-)
<tigerfoot> Chrysantine: oh really, works great ...
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: http://www.novell.com/linux/security/apparmor/
<tigerfoot> even on public server on internet ... :-)
* plane- opuścił/a czat (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
<nikola__> rhorse: I've moved it. So after reboot: 1) iwconfig wlan0 essid your_essid mode managed 2) dhclient -v wlan0. If that doesn't work. Put network file in /etc/init.d and reboot?
* swims (~swims@109.255.237.236) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* froksen opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* coly opuścił/a czat (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
<rhorse> nikola__: exaxctly
<nikola__> ok. I'm gonna try it right now :)
* Loki2010LT opuścił/a czat (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
* Erikw opuścił/a czat (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
* myo opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* plane- (~zoo@0x5da7eb79.gbynqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* nikola__ opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* awaymore (~claymore_@host86-159-169-185.range86-159.btcentralplus.com) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* awaymore zmienia pseudonim na claymore_
* mdeva1 opuścił/a czat (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
* pingufan opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* hsuanyeh (~hsuanyeh@pool-72-70-32-50.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* e-neko (~backup@bzq-79-180-46-183.red.bezeqint.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* e-neko opuścił/a czat (Changing host)
* e-neko (~backup@unaffiliated/e-cat) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* piggz (~piggz@78.145.127.110) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* pvdm (~pvdm@pvdm.xs4all.nl) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* aschro (~andi@dslb-088-068-252-013.pools.arcor-ip.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* Vojtaeus (~vojta@opensuse/member/vojtaeus) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* IngeSve opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* e-cat opuścił/a czat (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
* monfis (~monfis@193.59.255.222) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* JailhouseJoe opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* ChmEarl (~ChmEarl@cpe-66-27-167-237.socal.res.rr.com) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* Jonius (~Jonius@41.59.7.165) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* dile (~dile@broadband-77-37-140-26.nationalcablenetworks.ru) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* Nikola (~nikola@adsl-165-144-155.teol.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* Nikola zmienia pseudonim na nikola__
<nikola__> rhorse: http://pastebin.com/cEYEBbFj
<nikola__> It isn't working
* gunnyx (~gunnyx@p4FC85FFC.dip.t-dialin.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* gunnyx (~gunnyx@p4FC85FFC.dip.t-dialin.net) opuścił/a pokój #suse
<woodefec> nikola__, are you trying to get it to work with plasmoid or KNM?
<Cymage> woodefec : he is doing it with iwconfig ifup
<woodefec> oh, dhclient
<monfis> #suse-pl
<nikola__> I'm thinking about doing a clean install, because it worked first day or two. After installation
* Taoki opuścił/a czat (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
* tm_ (~tm@p54B4BE27.dip.t-dialin.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* Taoki (kvirc@93.113.162.42) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<nikola__> But idk if it will happen again :/
* PrezKennedy opuścił/a czat (Quit: Leaving)
* tm_ opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* twois10 (~twois10@unaffiliated/twois10) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<rhorse> drats!
<woodefec> nikola__, maybe worth trying to use the gnome nm-applet
<woodefec> !pl
<SUSEhelp> jezykiem oficjalnym kanalu #opensuse jest angielski. dla zainteresowanych, #suse.pl jest polskim kanalem irc (/join #suse.pl)
* Erikw (~Erikw@c-927d71d5.045-133-6c756e10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* freespacer opuścił/a czat (Read error: Operation timed out)
<woodefec> but, I am not aware, if, in face of the things, you already did...
* lOtz1009 (~lotz@frnk-5f74338c.pool.mediaWays.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* lOtz1009 opuścił/a czat (Changing host)
* lOtz1009 (~lotz@opensuse/member/lOtz1009) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<woodefec> it would help.
<nikola__> [stupid question] I'm using kde enviorment, can I install gnome nm-applet and try with it?
* tackat opuścił/a czat (Read error: Operation timed out)
<woodefec> nikola__, yes, you can, http://susestarter.blogspot.com/
<woodefec> nikola__, check "Step 2"
<woodefec> i do not guarantee it would help. But it helped me to run mobile broadband and easily connect to any wifi
<nikola__> Well, I don't have anything to lose :)
<woodefec> nikola__, you can always install Networkmanager-kde4-libs back
<woodefec> and delete the entry from Autostart
* freespacer (~freespace@dslb-188-109-231-102.pools.arcor-ip.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* freespacer opuścił/a czat (Changing host)
* freespacer (~freespace@opensuse/member/Freespacer) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<woodefec> if it wouldn't help
<woodefec> I am curious myself if it would help you, there is funny stuff going on with KNM/pnm
<woodefec> the problem is, nm-applet from gnome didn't work when I had the Networkmanager-kde4-libs installed. Plus I needed to install qtcurve-gtk and change the Gtk theme in KDE to QtCurve
<woodefec> than a small edit in Autostart and nm-applet worked. You've got all in the above mentioned blog. If it helps you, please tell me
* nikola__ opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* nikola_ (~nikola@adsl-165-144-155.teol.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* nikola_ zmienia pseudonim na nikola__
* darkmatter opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
<nikola__> woodefec: thank you :D it's working now
<nikola__> :D
* darkmatter (~darkmatte@unaffiliated/darkmatter) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<woodefec> WTF???????
<woodefec> nikola__, kidding me?
<rhorse> !!
<nikola__> nope
<SUSEhelp> My baby shot me down.
<nikola__> it's working
<nikola__> :D
<rhorse> how?
<nikola__> idk :D
<woodefec> http://susestarter.blogspot.com/ Step 2
<nikola__> yes
<rhorse> hmm
<nikola__> I just select my network from gnome-thing
<nikola__> and it connects right away
<nikola__> and is working fine
<gandhijee> Chrysantine: still complains that it can't open /etc/samba/secrets.tdb file
<rhorse> make a directory called Removed in /etc/init.d. Move the file, network, into it. Then reboot. It should reboot without the network started. Then try the iwconfig/dhclient process.
* netsjanek__ opuścił/a czat (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
<rhorse> Then, to get it back just move network from Removed to its orig. place
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: Try #2.
<gandhijee> #2????
* netsjanek (~janek@metroeth-nat34.217.146.194.generacja.pl) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: http://susepaste.org/88412813
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: http://susepaste.org/7321610
<gandhijee> thanks
* netsjanek opuścił/a czat (Client Quit)
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: Replace the entire files.
* netsjanek_ (~janek@metroeth-nat34.217.146.194.generacja.pl) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<plane-> Chrysantine: the cable is perfect and bad wireless slow weird. thanks
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: Remember to restart apparmor with rcapparmor restart
* myo opuścił/a czat (Read error: Operation timed out)
<gandhijee> Chrysantine: that was the problem
<gandhijee> i didnt restart apparmor.
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: Derp :P
<nikola__> rhorse: how to start dolphin as root, so I can cut/move file ?
<gandhijee> yep
<cb400f> nikola__: there's super user dolphin in the menu
* bmahe (~bmahe@173-164-176-117-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<cb400f> search for 'dolphin' or go to applications -> system -> file manager
<nikola__> found it
* hsuanyeh opuścił/a czat (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
<rhorse> nikola__: just open a root terminal and I'll give you the commands
* myo (~matze@88.130.201.182) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<nikola__> ok
* tackat (~trahn@pd95c4acb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<cb400f> http://opensuse-guide.org/security.php
* morice-net opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
<gandhijee> Chrysantine: thanks for your help, fixed my problem really appreciate it.
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: Good stuff, apparmor can be a bit tricky at times :p
<gandhijee> Chrysantine: honestly i didn't think about restarting it after i made the changes, just didn't really occur to me
<tigerfoot> Chrysantine: chkconfig boot.apparmor off :-)
<gandhijee> where can i find more info about apparmor and what it does?
<Chrysantine> tigerfoot: That's not really a good idea :-)
<tigerfoot> Chrysantine: oh really, works great ...
<Chrysantine> gandhijee: http://www.novell.com/linux/security/apparmor/
<tigerfoot> even on public server on internet ... :-)
* plane- opuścił/a czat (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
<nikola__> rhorse: I've moved it. So after reboot: 1) iwconfig wlan0 essid your_essid mode managed 2) dhclient -v wlan0. If that doesn't work. Put network file in /etc/init.d and reboot?
* swims (~swims@109.255.237.236) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* froksen opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* coly opuścił/a czat (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
<rhorse> nikola__: exaxctly
<nikola__> ok. I'm gonna try it right now :)
* Loki2010LT opuścił/a czat (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
* Erikw opuścił/a czat (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
* myo opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* plane- (~zoo@0x5da7eb79.gbynqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* nikola__ opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* awaymore (~claymore_@host86-159-169-185.range86-159.btcentralplus.com) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* awaymore zmienia pseudonim na claymore_
* mdeva1 opuścił/a czat (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
* pingufan opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* hsuanyeh (~hsuanyeh@pool-72-70-32-50.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* e-neko (~backup@bzq-79-180-46-183.red.bezeqint.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* e-neko opuścił/a czat (Changing host)
* e-neko (~backup@unaffiliated/e-cat) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* piggz (~piggz@78.145.127.110) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* pvdm (~pvdm@pvdm.xs4all.nl) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* aschro (~andi@dslb-088-068-252-013.pools.arcor-ip.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* Vojtaeus (~vojta@opensuse/member/vojtaeus) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* IngeSve opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* e-cat opuścił/a czat (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
* monfis (~monfis@193.59.255.222) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* JailhouseJoe opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* ChmEarl (~ChmEarl@cpe-66-27-167-237.socal.res.rr.com) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* Jonius (~Jonius@41.59.7.165) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* dile (~dile@broadband-77-37-140-26.nationalcablenetworks.ru) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* Nikola (~nikola@adsl-165-144-155.teol.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* Nikola zmienia pseudonim na nikola__
<nikola__> rhorse: http://pastebin.com/cEYEBbFj
<nikola__> It isn't working
* gunnyx (~gunnyx@p4FC85FFC.dip.t-dialin.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* gunnyx (~gunnyx@p4FC85FFC.dip.t-dialin.net) opuścił/a pokój #suse
<woodefec> nikola__, are you trying to get it to work with plasmoid or KNM?
<Cymage> woodefec : he is doing it with iwconfig ifup
<woodefec> oh, dhclient
<monfis> #suse-pl
<nikola__> I'm thinking about doing a clean install, because it worked first day or two. After installation
* Taoki opuścił/a czat (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
* tm_ (~tm@p54B4BE27.dip.t-dialin.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* Taoki (kvirc@93.113.162.42) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<nikola__> But idk if it will happen again :/
* PrezKennedy opuścił/a czat (Quit: Leaving)
* tm_ opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* twois10 (~twois10@unaffiliated/twois10) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<rhorse> drats!
<woodefec> nikola__, maybe worth trying to use the gnome nm-applet
<woodefec> !pl
<SUSEhelp> jezykiem oficjalnym kanalu #opensuse jest angielski. dla zainteresowanych, #suse.pl jest polskim kanalem irc (/join #suse.pl)
* Erikw (~Erikw@c-927d71d5.045-133-6c756e10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* freespacer opuścił/a czat (Read error: Operation timed out)
<woodefec> but, I am not aware, if, in face of the things, you already did...
* lOtz1009 (~lotz@frnk-5f74338c.pool.mediaWays.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* lOtz1009 opuścił/a czat (Changing host)
* lOtz1009 (~lotz@opensuse/member/lOtz1009) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<woodefec> it would help.
<nikola__> [stupid question] I'm using kde enviorment, can I install gnome nm-applet and try with it?
* tackat opuścił/a czat (Read error: Operation timed out)
<woodefec> nikola__, yes, you can, http://susestarter.blogspot.com/
<woodefec> nikola__, check "Step 2"
<woodefec> i do not guarantee it would help. But it helped me to run mobile broadband and easily connect to any wifi
<nikola__> Well, I don't have anything to lose :)
<woodefec> nikola__, you can always install Networkmanager-kde4-libs back
<woodefec> and delete the entry from Autostart
* freespacer (~freespace@dslb-188-109-231-102.pools.arcor-ip.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* freespacer opuścił/a czat (Changing host)
* freespacer (~freespace@opensuse/member/Freespacer) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<woodefec> if it wouldn't help
<woodefec> I am curious myself if it would help you, there is funny stuff going on with KNM/pnm
<woodefec> the problem is, nm-applet from gnome didn't work when I had the Networkmanager-kde4-libs installed. Plus I needed to install qtcurve-gtk and change the Gtk theme in KDE to QtCurve
<woodefec> than a small edit in Autostart and nm-applet worked. You've got all in the above mentioned blog. If it helps you, please tell me
* nikola__ opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
* nikola_ (~nikola@adsl-165-144-155.teol.net) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
* nikola_ zmienia pseudonim na nikola__
* darkmatter opuścił/a czat (Remote host closed the connection)
<nikola__> woodefec: thank you :D it's working now
<nikola__> :D
* darkmatter (~darkmatte@unaffiliated/darkmatter) wchodzi do pokoju #suse
<woodefec> WTF???????
<woodefec> nikola__, kidding me?
<rhorse> !!
<nikola__> nope
<SUSEhelp> My baby shot me down.
<nikola__> it's working
<nikola__> :D
<rhorse> how?
<nikola__> idk :D
<woodefec> http://susestarter.blogspot.com/ Step 2
<nikola__> yes
<rhorse> hmm
<nikola__> I just select my network from gnome-thing
<nikola__> and it connects right away
<nikola__> and is working fine
I hope this will be helpful. It's a shame KDE users can't connect to mobile broadband OR EVEN WIFI because of crapy Networkmanager-kde4-libs.
To be sure it isn't Networkmanager-kde4-libs's fault, DEINSTALL IT AND INSTALL Networkmanager-GNOME, following THIS TUTORIAL.
